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of the personality but romney had the numbers. >> definitely. it's not the speech it's what he believes and it's what i believe and that's why i support him. >> let's move on to bob you wore a romney supporter a clear winner tonight? >> i don't think there was, i think it was a draw. >> why? >> i think we need to learn more about both candidates within the next two debates i don't thinks there was another debating. >> would you say that he did enough was convincing enough to get voters to lead in his direction? >> i think he could be a little more convincing. >> we will send it back to you in the studio. >> paul lisneck joins us tonight for political analysis, i saw the first 50 minutes, it looked to me like the governor handed the president has launched tonight. >> and the first 50 minutes romney came out crisp and firing even if you may not agree with what he said. >> what i think romijn daetz strategy was tonight was he decided to basically forget about the right wing of the party there was nothing that came out of his mouth that was going to feed the right wing he cut off the tee
gear. >> whatever the numbers are, the romney campaign is going to cite them as evidence that president obama's policies are failing. >> the president is trying to convince people he's doing real well. he is not. >> reporter: building on a momentum of wednesday night's debate, romney's trying to reverse his stance in battlegrounds like ohio where he's fallen behind. >> china has passed us in manufacturing. >> reporter: the president argues republicans are offering nothing new. >> it's not plan for our economy. it's not a plan to strengthen the middle class. it is not change. it is a relapse. we're not going to do it. >> reporter: the latest jobs report, cold, hard facts, certain to be the subject of heated debate. economists expected the economy added a less than stellar 115,000 jobs last month. the next jobs report comes out just four days before the election. >> will be an important one. all right, brian. thanks. >>> now here's your first look at some of the other news going on around america today. we're going to begin in new jersey with one family's dramatic escape from a fast-movin
on some of the numbers we heard tonight from mitt romney. he's been a bit of a truth squad. this is msnbc's live coverage of the first presidential debate. >> i'll silt down on day one, the day after i get a elected i'll sit down with leaders, the democratic leaders as well as republican leaders. >> i think governor romney is going to have a busy first day because he's going to repeal obama care which won't be very popular with democrats as you're sitting down with them. the human league playing ] humans. we mean well, but we're imperfect creatures living in a beautifully imperfect world. it's amazing we've made it this far. maybe it's because when one of us messes up, someone else comes along to help out. that's the thing about humans. when things are at their worst, we're at our best. see how at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance -- responsibility. what's your policy? >>> welcome back to motor vehicle welcome back to msnbc's live coverage. howard fineman is with us. what are you hearing. >> it always interesting to watch the body language of the spin room. the side that feels c
the giper or is the number still bad enough to doom his hopes? well, cue mitt romney. that's what happened today. his team is furiously pointing out how many people are underemployed. last month's household survey found 582,000 of the jobs created involved part time workers who wanted to be full time. plus, no one should forget all the people who have stopped looking for work. romney says this new number or not is not what a recovery looks like. >> the truth is, if the same share of people were participating in the workforce, today is on the day the president got elected, our unemployment rate would be around 11%. >> "outfront" tonight, ali velshi, ethan and a former staff member for president obama's national commission on fiscal responsibility and reform, daniel mitchell, senior fellow at the cato institut alan, the numbers sound good. are they? >> i don't care. i'm going to go one further than erin. not only does the absolute number of the unemployment percentage not matter. i don't even think the trend matters. bottom line is there are measures of unemployment much more important. the
. >> romney: i'll cut programs like pbs, i'll make government more efficient and cut back the number of employees, combine agencies and departments. this is the approach we have to take to get america to an balanced budget. the president said he would cut the deficit in half. unfortunately he doubled it. trillion dollars deficits for the last four years. the president has put it in place as much public debt -- almost as much debt held by the public as all prior presidents combined. >> mr. president? >> obama: when i walked into the oaf value office i had a deficit facing me with two wars that were not paid for, tax cuts that were not paid for, a whole bunch of programs that were not paid for, and a massive economic crisis. yes, we had to taken initial emergency measures. but what we have all said is let's make sure we are cutting out those things that are not helping us grow. to 77 government programs everything from aircrafts that the air force had ordered but won't working very well, 18 government programs for education that were well intentioned but weren't he
. romney says this new number or not is not what a recovery looks like. >> the truth is, if the same share of people were participating in the workforce, today is on the day the president got elected, our unemployment rate would be around 11%. >> "outfront" tonight, ali vels velshi, ethan and a former staff member for president oba's national commission on fiscal responsibility and reform, daniel mitchell, senior fellow at the cato institute. alan, the numbers sound good. are they? >> i don't care. i'm going to go one further than erin. not only does the absolute number of the unemployment percentage not matter. i don't even think the trend matters. bottom line is there are measures of unemployment much more important. the number of jobs created minus lost. the average hours worked in a week and wages. we measure that every month, but we're so caught up in this percentage rate. guess what? republicans hated the fact it was above 8%. no president gets elected with rates above 8%. what's the main accusation today? that the books are cook edcooke. >> hold on. we're going to get to it. >> it d
years. will these new numbers mean lights out for romney's post debate afterglow? new ads kat aare catered to cri inting states. joining me live is jan schakowsky. congresswoman, it's great to have you here. business pioneer jack welch basically calls these numbers into question. had this remark that he tweeted out earlier today saying, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate, so change numbers. what do you say to that? even the white house though right now this morning reluctant to spike the football on this. in their statement saying it is critical we continue the policies that are building an economy that works for the middle cla class as we dig our way out of a deep hole. what is your response to those questioning the validity? >> that's really interesting because i happened to see one of those chicago guys last night. i was with david axelrod. i asked him what do you expect about the jobs numbers? he says, i really don't know. we're hoping it will be good. so, you know, it doesn't surprise me that romney supporters are now going to take thi
that the romney campaign want s out there. jack welch was talking about chicago-style number fixing. that would be one thing if these numbers were actually coming out of chicago. they're coming out of the bureau of labor statistics, where you have career professionals who do this job. these aren't political appointees. i think if anybody was cooking the books, you would pretty quickly have a whistle blower coming out of there, saying, hey, wait a second, these aren't the numbers. this is not something that's at all helpful for mitt romney, and it's generally not helpful for the level of intellect on our national discourse right now. >> you know, anne, i've been talking to people on both sides of this thing. let's clear it up right now. because this whole conspiracy, in my experience, in the past 24 hours, has been met with a collective eye roll from people who are democrats and republicans. is there any way the obama administration could actually have cooked up these numbers? >> uh, in a short answer, i would say no. i think the last president who was accused of, and where there was evidence th
and mitt romney having live events in virginia this hour on the heels of those new job numbers putting unemployment at its lowest level in nearly four years. the new number, 7.8%. but are those numbers enough to change the trajectory of this race and in whose favor? here is carl bernstein on "jansing & co." last hour. take a look. >> so, carl, does this change the narrative, these new unemployment numbers? >> perhaps. i think we really need to look at who mitt romney is in this campaign, what he's tried to do in the debate is shed his manacles of the far right of the tea party fringe of the party which has come to control the republican party and escape it. >> all right. so let's find out what our friday political power panel thinks about that. joining me is msnbc contributor jonathan capehart. also ap opinion writer for "the washington post." democratic strategist chris kofinis and susan dell percent yo. i just give you the heads up we are waiting for the president to come to the podium. when he does we are going to jump to that. jonathan, is this an etch-a-sketch moment for the presi
jobs created this month than last month. >> reporter: romney argued today's numbers disguised the fact that people had stopped trying to even find jobs. >> so it looks like unemployment is getting better. but the truth is, if the same share of people were participating in the work force today, today is on the day that the president got elected, well, the unemployment rate would be at about 11%. >> reporter: it is true that only 114,000 jobs were added last month, a modest number, but economists say a number of people were working, not just giving up trying to find a job. and numbers from the last two months went up. still, manufacturing was weak >> we're seeing a lot of volatility in the numbers on a month to month basis, so until we see a consistent trend in the numbers that show we're generating a lot of jobs and seeing a lot of people participate, you kind of take it with a grain of salt. >> reporter: while the market saw good news, some saw a conspiracy. jack welch, former chairman of ge accused the white house of cooking the books he said these chicago guys will do anything when p
was inaugurated. he is hoping the new numbers will bring him a second term. he and governor romney know the election's all about the economy and both men were trading jabs today in the battleground state of virginia. >> today's news certainly is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> when i'm president of the united states, that unemployment rate is going to come down not because people are giving up and dropping out of the work force, but because we're creating more jobs. i will create jobs and get america working again. >> let's get right to tonight's big story. with senator john mccain, the arizona senator and former presidential candidate joining me now. welcome to you, senator. >> thank you, piers. >> we are going to come to the debate in a moment. you've been one of the only people who debated both barack obama and mitt romney so you're in a unique place to tell me what you made of the new style romney and indeed, obama. before we get there, though, today's big news on t
. governor romney says, not so fast. live reports from the trail ahead. analysts predict the job numbers will affect the race for the white house. the host of fox news sunday, chris wall has, joins us live with context. >> american airlines is now blaming, are you ready, spilled coffee and soda, on their loose seat fiasco. that is all ahead unless breaking news changes everything. this is "studio b." the unemployment rate has dropped to the lowest level since president obama took office. like everything else, this election season, it is political. president obama says there is more to be done. governor romney says this is not what a real recovery looks like. the labor department reports the economy added a seasonally adjusted 114,000 jobs last month which brought down the jobless rate to an unexpected 7.8 percent. here is a look at the unemployment rate since 28 state. the gray area on the left is the president since the recession. the rate has not been this low sin the inauguration in january of 2009. of course, this could be a potential boost to the president's campaign. no incumbent s
to the head-to-head with mitt romney. the president's number is steady at 49. mitt romney has picked up a couple in the last couple weeks, sits at 46. what's helping him? republican voters more enthusiastic, they make it through the likely voter screen. it's been a couple tough weeks for mitt romney. that 47% mark has left a mark, if you will. is there anything you've heard that's made you more or less favorable on mitt romney, 54% say what they've heard has made them less favorable. that said, the president has a couple things not going for him on the issue of libya and egypt. more people disapprove of how he's handled the situation than approve. why is the president in a kma d commanding small lead? 57% tell us the economy is in recovery. >> chuck todd already in denver, part of our team on the ground there. and he'll be part of our on air nbc news team tomorrow evening for our live coverage. that begins 9:00 p.m. eastern time. that's when we come on the air. 6:00 pacific here on this nbc station. >>> also tonight a big court ruling for voters in one of the states that passed a law r
obama in the blue. t romney landing a number of jabs on the president from everything from debt and jobs his green g economy toealt energy program and saying, americans republican and and democrat need leadership and he is prepared to provide it.ovid the president keeping his cool which was said by the punditsbe to be one of the challenges for him tonight and saying leadership requires more than just lofty goals, it requires specifics and he didn't see see them from the governor. mitt romney looking mostly oh he veronica moser at president at president obama when making his points and president obama be looking mostly at jim lehrer or looking down. wanting to communicate directly to the viewers at home, past the moderator. there was mostly respectful sparring in a robust debate. the moderator, jim lehrers was not nrsly in control, but not ineffective. this is the first time we have seen the candidates go back and forth. instead of hearing from a moderator, we got to hear from them. >> that's right. he watched a lot of the time, as the candidates went back and forth. you know, we were won
and all that debt. >> let's talk about friday's job numbers and raised suspicions among governor romney's allies friday morning. jack welch, the former chairman of ge said unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate so change numbers. steve forbes follows up and says welch is right. does governor romney put any stock in those theories and have any suspicions at all about the bls numbers? >> george, the numbers themselves are very damning. when you look at it, we had fewer jobs created in september than were created in august, fewer jobs created in august than were created in july. our unemployment rate has come down because for -- since president obama took office for every new job created more than six workers have left the labor force. if labor force participation was what it was when the president took office, unemployment would be around 10.7%. these jobs that were added in september were largely part-time jobs. so we still have 23 million american, that number has not changed at all, would are either unemployed or out of work entirely or are underem
was sitting right there. he could have confronted governor romney on any number of issues and drowning the distinction. >> isn't our job to actually never mind that the quality of the theatrical performance but to ask about, were there untruths spoken in that debate and there were a lot. >> about that -- >> because president obama was loose with the facts. >> they were minor. >> ah. >> he said -- >> $4 trillion plan to cut the deficit. >> he said health care premiums are rising at the slowest rate in 50 years. >> those are minor compared with -- >> you know what, let's dig into those when we come back. take a quick break. a lot more roundtable including previewing the vp debate and last time it inspired "saturday night live." >> with barack obama you're going to be paying higher taxes, but not with me and my fellow maverick. we're not afraid to get mavericky in there and ruffle some feathers and not allow that and also to the great ronald reagan. >> and later "this week's" other big debate. >> american foreign policy has been to go into the middle east and try to buy friends. does that
romney's numbers up high as they can possibly get him. romney doesn't stand a chance. he's a puppet put in by that party. they are telling him what to do what to say, and if he is elected president, he is not going to be the one running the country. and if american's don't realize that now, we have a problem. the debate i have to admit and i'm ashamed of it, i have never sat down and watched a debate from beginning to end. until this one. everybody says oh, obama lost the debate on style and all of this. i see at it different way. i look at it as he stood there. he played by the rules. he kept his composure and everything he said, he has fact to back it up. so if i'm looking at it from the very first time, and not even knowing how a debate is supposed to go, i look at that debate as obama had facts, numbers statistics, he stated what he was going to do how he was going to do it, and the accomplishment to move forward in america. all romney dun was to disband everything that has done to this point by obama to this point to help america. so do i want to tear america d
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with you in arizona, this is what mitt romney said. number one, i said today we're going to cut taxes on everyone across the country. across the country by 20%, including the top 1%. mr. speaker, you mentioned that your opponent, mitt romney had a problem with being dishonest and the primary my question is, was he dishonest when he said that? >> i think it's clearly changed. >> i think -- >> we don't disagree that he changed. >> let me do this. >> let me get a break in. with several different directions we're going to keep going. talking about the economy. talking about the aftermath of the debate. we want to look forward to the next debate. which is biden on and ryan. we also want to go inside the numbers with chuck todd for a look at how the campaign is feeling good. the romney campaign after the first debate. looking at some of the enthusiasm. later my conversation as i mentioned with arnold schwarzenegger. more to come with our special panel. nel right after this. >>> "meet the press" [ male announcer ] this is anna, her long day teaching the perfect swing begins with back pain an
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measures employment, number one. and b, maybe mitt romney should be replacing president obama if he's not doing a good job. but to say there is corruption of somebody cooking these books, why do you do this? for a government in trust of private institutions, that's not a good thing to say. there are so many ceos that talk nonsense, what do you gain from this, jack? >> ali, i love you. i'm not talking nonsense, okay? >> i love you more, jack. >> wait a minute, wait a minute. i told you that these numbers are implausible. we don't have a 5% gdp growth in this quarter. we don't have it, ali. we revised the second quarter down. i'm involved in 14 businesses. i've been looking at them over the lastweek. the third quarter is not strong, it's not strong, for restaurants -- >> let me ask you this, jack. i agree with you. this is a lousy economy. 1.3% gdp growth is lousy, and yet on wednesday night, mitt romney said again -- and by the way, barack obama backs up his claim that either one of them will create 12 million jobs in four years. that is 3 million jobs a year or 250,000 jobs a month.
that mitt romney won. did it move some of the numbers? some of the numbers. in favorability ratings president obama is where he was 56% and above mitt romney. but mitt romney has risen above 50% for the first time. he's at 51%. it obviously helped romney a little bit although it didn't hurt the president as much. when you look at the national polls president obama was up by seven points. he's now up by five points. he has lost two points in that poll. it's not a huge difference but a little bit of a movement. rasmussen is a conservative polling organization much more favorable to romney they have them at 49-47 with still obama in the lead. if rasmussen has obama in the lead he must be way up. with romney more centrist and pretending to be moderate. sticking with that 47% line how i didn't care about those guys, maybe that wasn't such a good idea. go ahead a load of mitt romney on the 47% issue. where he started and where he wound out today. >> all right, there are 47% who are with, who believe that they are victims. >> it's a message with i meant to carry and will continue to carry.
besides for that number. and romney says it will be compensated for by loopholes. how he will justify the cuts? where will those revenue sources be made up? >> even stephanie cutter admitted it is not a $5 trillion tax cut. we have a 20% tax cut across the board, no matter what income level you fall into. but for those people at the higher levels of income, what governor rom no is proposing is closing loopholes and dedux for those individuals that will ultimately make the entire budget revenue neutral. >> shannon: when will we find out what they are? >> when a budget is put together, when the budget committee puts forward a budget, they don't put forward a budget with every loophole and deduction and every single -- they have a couple of numbers, they say here's the top number, here's the bottom number. you go to the ways & means committee and i sit down with a burch of people and i figure out how to get a tax cut across the board and close the loopholes so the people at the higher levels pay more. you make it revenue neutral. that's how the process works. here's the deal. debbie wass
. the reality is this $5 trillion number is not a specific plan by romney. it's cobbling a number of things together and including things obama and romney both agree on. >> but it is a number, a plan he has talked about. unfortunately, we are out of time, congressman. thank you so much. >> president obama claims $3 trillion of that number himself, so does president obama have a $3 trillion plan to cut taxes? he doesn't want to go around talking about it a whole lot. >> former congressman arch davis, thank you so much. >>> federal authorities have launched a criminal probe into a company hired by republicans. after looking at dozens of suspicious forms there's enough evidence indicating a crime may have been committed. the republican national committee fired strategic allied consulting last week after several counties reported questionable forms across southern florida. ♪ these are... [ male announcer ] marie callender's puts everything you've grown to love about sunday dinner into each of her pot pies. tender white meat chicken and vegetables in a crust made from scratch. marie callender'
within those numbers, problems for romney. >> yeah. i mean first of all let me say i love duel in denver. i'm a big fan of that one. i think andrea, look, last week there was a ton of polling both in swing states and nationally that i think caught barack obama sort of at the apex of the bounce he had received post-convention and post a couple bad weeks for mitt romney and mitt romney at the nader of where he could possibly be in a race where you have the country as divided as it is. the fact that things are moving back towards at the national level, 49/46, i think should not be terribly surprising. i continue to believe the problem for mitt romney is not national polling. it is swing state polling. nbc/marist, you put out data this morning, close in several states but still in ohio, mitt romney down by 8 points among likely voters. i think that's very problematic for him. if he loses ohio getting to 270 electoral votes becomes not impossible but much more difficult. >> at the same time in the national poll, right track up to 40%, still not great, but it's the highest number we've seen in
to even out. i'm did a very good job of bringing up specific differences. >> i think romney basically touted figures and numbers that he promised but with no backup. >> i wanted to know about the educational system and how we were going to make a difference in improving it over the next few years. and i think that both of them were generally vague. >> i think barack obama won the debate. i think mitt romney was well-prepared. i didn't feel like he answered any questions. >> viewing parties also held by republicans tonight. the scene with the romney supporters this evening in the east bay. >> reporter: here in walnut creek, it was a fullhouse as romney supporters gathered to listen to the first debate. for the most part, everyone believes mr. romney did an excellent job. >> i think he's done a fantastic job making his points about programs and what he has in store for the american people, and growth for the middle class. fairness to every american. >> reporter: there was a lot of applause, especially when the focus was about the economy. more specifically about creating jobs. >> i thin
, the president gets 41%. governor romney gets 56%. governor romney's beating him by a big number, how is that good for president obama? given the president's support among african-americans, latinos and other voters, governor romney needs to keep the president to 37%, no more than 38% of the white vote. if the president's cracking 47% of the white vote, that's a formula for an obama victory. and where are the key big battleground states? there are several in the midwest. ohio, iowa, wisconsin. look at the race in the midwest. obama, 52%, romney, 43%. the president is winning that part of the country. out west in denver, colorado, nevada, among the battlegrounds out here in the west. ten-point lead in the west for the president. 54% to 44%. the white vote and if you look regionally, there are things that give the president's team some optimism. >> if you're the romney campaign looking at these new poll numbers, what should give the romney folks some optimism? >> reporter: one of the reasons we are back in a closer race, a statistical dead heat nationally f you go state by state, it's a
who claimed to be mitt romney. >> the economy is again the central focus. the new jobs numbers drop the unm employment rate below 9%. >> we have made too much progress. >> a sign of recovery as the voters head to the polls. we cover it all this morning. the policy fight emerging from the debate and the policy. what does the debate reveal about these two men? >>> plus, our preview of the vice presidential debate this coming week. this morning, a special panel. obama campaign senior adviser robert gibbs. former republican presidential candidate newt gingrich. hilary rosen. mike murphy. and nbc's chief white house correspondent and political director chuck todd. >>> and finally, what you haven't heard from arnold schwarzenegger this week. a revealing conversation with the former california governor. he talks politics and his personal failings. >> what would you like your sons to learn from your mistakes? >> i think that they're not going to make the same mistakes. >>> from nbc news in washington, "meet the press" with david gregory. >>> and good morning. one month ago, and so much to g
a number inform alternative energy and a number of things that we need for a economy. and romney's plan doesn't add up. and romney also confirmed once the debate with the republican challengers, even predent dollars an spenting cuts, he won't raise taxes. >> do you think the president needs to be more aggressive? >> i think jack has a point there, he was playing noble say, he h's to be -- i think you'll see him more aggressive the couple of debates. >> the democrats spin where they say romney criticize him on the numbers and say his tax plan don't add up. oh bloom doubled the deficit. he incrowsed the inthe debate. obama -- >> go up under bush. >> by a fraction. >> it went went up over obama a lot. >> the producer says we have to wrap this up. republican strategist, democrat strategist, brendan daly, thank you so much for coming in tonight. we appreciate it. and don't be surprised if you hear people talking about big bird tomorrow as well. the sesame staple was trending on twitter tonight along with the word zingers and cheesecake. people are talking about the cheesecake factory.
today if they believe the numbers are legitimate. one key romney adviser said they'll leave the speculation to others, that, quote, we'll deal with the numbers, diane, as they've been reported. >> all right, david muir, good to have you back in from the campaign trail. >>> and amid those questions being asked, we decided to track down some answers. abc's jonathan karl spent the day looking into these new numbers and what they really mean. >> reporter: as soon as the new 7.8% unemployment rate was announced, rush limbaugh and other conservatives said the white house had cooked the books. even jack welch, the former ceo of ge, went on twitter to accuse the president of changing the numbers. >> i tell you, these numbers don't smell right when you think about where the economy is right now. >> reporter: the labor department called the allegations ludicrous. we went directly to the place where it's all done. this vast government building, a couple of miles from the white house, houses the labor department's bureau of labor statistics. the bls has been tabulating the monthly unemp
numbers, president obama basically out raised mitt romney two to one. in terms of overall numbers. mitt romney raised a lot of numbers. president obama used a lot of his money early on. so the edge has been narrowed. but clearly they need money for the homestretch. this is one of the problems with polls. when polls show you behind, people loosen enthusiasm. people, particularly businessmen, and a lot of businessmen are supporting mitt romney, they say why am i putting our money in a campaign which is losing? better off to divert it to other races which are where we have a chance to keep the house, maybe take the senate or add seats to the senate. that is what they're doing right now. it is a nascent trend. i talked to some people at center for responsive politics. i said listen can you see it in the numbers? they said no can't see in the current numb bothers which are good up to september 21. the next reporting deadline is october 20. you might be able to see it there. clearly inside the romney campaign. this is happening. it is concerning. they know because of these poll numbers and th
. the numbers parallel each other. after the republican convention are, romney took 47% of the vote. kerry, 48% of the vote. after the in-party convention, both obama and bush took a big lead e to date you not very much evidence that romney has yet assembled the number of voters that he will need to take the presidency. now, if that -- if these parallels continue, you would expect romney to make some gains over the next few days in the aftermath of the first presidential debate. the challenger does tend to make gains afterwards, largely because there are late tent supporters that switch to undecided after the in-party convention. the problem for romney, after his own convention, he only went to 47% of the vote f something similar happened this time, woe still trained he will need something better than what kerry got last time that is, real change in the race where old obama supporters switch to romney's side some far, we don't see much evidence of that. >> well, you know, nate, you go back to april when romney wrapped up the republican nomination and the look at that real clear politics pollin
. obama has to defend numbers but so does romney. >> eric: what number does he have to defend? >> bob: how he will cut taxes and balance the budget? >> dana: he has a good answer. obama has a tougher time explaining how in 2008, he ran on one thing regarding taxes. in 2010 he changed his mind to protect his tail. then now his whole plan is against what he said in 2010, is worst thing to do for the country. >> bob: that debate has been out there and argued over and over for four years. the question is how romney says he will, not going to lose money cutting taxes because he is going to take away loopholes. he refuses to answer one question about the loophole. obama will push him. he should. >> greg: mitt has to say why did you cancel pipeline with 8.2% unemployment? >> bob: i'll answer if that if you answer which loopholes you will cut? >> dana: there you go again. >> bob: simple question, what loopholes are you going to cut on wealthy people? coming up, president obama uses heavy, heavy hollywood hitters in a new ad. ♪ >> women will help decide this election. >> i find a champion in pres
does this mean going forward? number one, the romney campaign is energized. it will be easier to raise money. number two, the president's attack ads on television against romney not going to be taken as seriously because the folks have seen the governor definite himself effectively. number three, president obama will lose some steam in the polls, and with the adoring media. but, and this is big: mr. obama will come back hard on october 16th. you can count on that. governor romney has to, again, be on his game. two more things. from the very beginning of the campaign, i said the debates will tell the tale. >> bill: what mitt romney absolutely has to do, if he hopes to defeat president obama is win the three debates. now, we have seen the governor debate well and we have seen him get his butt kicked. >> bill: last night romney debated well. and may be on his way to the white house if that continues. finally i made this prediction last night. >> mitt romney will wish the first couple a happy anniversary. one of the first things he does. >> congratulations to you, mr. president, on your an
, more people are getting jobs. >> and here is governor romney's reaction to the same number. >> the reason it's come down this year is primarily due to the fact that more and more people have just stopped looking for work. and if you just drop out of the work force, if you just give up and say i can't go back to work, i'm going to stay home and drop out altogether, why, you're no longer part of the employment statistics, so looks like unemployment is getting better. but the truth is if the same share of people were participating in the work force today, as on the day the president got elected, our unemployment rate would be around 11%. >> the president clearly sees today's numbers good news for his campaign, but eric you've been digging into the numbers. can you help us dig a little deeper. what do the numbers say? >> there's something in here that i really, honestly in 25 years of doing this, that i can't figure out. and here a quick white board on it. okay, so the bureau of labor statistics come out and the estimates by the economists were 113,000 jobs created. wall street
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those numbers, romney likely to say that the president's plan is not working and the president likely to say my policies are working. it just takes time to heal this economy. underemployed and still struggling, under their mortgage. part of our middle class talk back. welcome, moira. >> good morning, carol. >> we make a big deal of these numbers every month. do you pay attention to them? >> yes and no. i'm actually tired of the pundits tell iing me what to thk and what's going on with the numbers. i just want the employers to start hiring. what i've heard out there is that there are jobs, but being a part of the underemployed or the ones that are really trying to find something a little bit more, the challenges, it's taking months and months of interviews and waiting. and i'm just so frustrated that it's -- >> so this 7.8% unemployment rate, does that affect you at all? does that do something psychologically for you that says, oh, my goodness, the economy is getting better? >> no. no. it says that, you know, it's still challenging out there. there are hundreds of people applying for t
the numbers, what do you think? >> well, i can tell you, romney campaign denied what i'm going to tell you right now, but i know it's true. i got it from people inside the campaign and not the spokesman, it is that whole numbers, uneven sort of you know, performance on the campaign trail the last couple of weeks. big money that was committed to mitt romney was start to go move elsewhere, starting, beginning of a trend, moving to the senate. >> congressional, yeah, yeah. >> no doubt that was happening. they're hoping that the people inside the campaign raising money in major states are hoping this debate performance will turn things around. i could tell you, it was jazzed up yesterday and jazzed up after the debate. i can't tell you whether it worked yet, we'll know by monday. >> they're saying that they were getting two donations every second after the debate. so they're saying that they're doing well. and there are limits on how much money they can take in, a lot of big donors have already given money as you know, romney takes money from large, you know, people, not from tiny people, you
new poll numbers show mitt romney's secret video is crushing his campaign. >> i'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility. >> richard wolffe on how aggressive the president needs e to be on the 47% tape. >>> mitt romney's billionaire base is starting to lose their cool. >> we need leadership, not criticism. we need encouragement, not discouragement. >> e.j. deon on why billionaires who do so well under obama can't stand the president. >>> and democrats with a victory for voters in pennsylvania, but republican voter fraud is getting swept under the rug here in colorado. tonight the latest on the rnc's voter fraud scandal. >>> good to have you with us. thanks for watching. we're coming to you tr from denver, colorado. the first presidential debate one day away. this is the romney pre-game show. will mitt romney be held accountable for lies and distortions about president obama's record? we got a sneak preview of what happens when mitt romney is forced to tell the truth. a fox affiliate here in denver asked romney to explain what paul ryan could not, how he plans to
%. but this number does deprive romney, norah of one of his chief rallying cries out on the campaign trail. he says it all the time. and he said it as recently as his closing statement in the debate wednesday night. that this economy has been above 8% unemployment for 43 months. he can't say that anymore. >> interesting thing about this the unemployment number like gas prices has a clear metric that you can look at. below 8% is a way to measure something, at least for one report. >> reporter: that's right. of course, we've got one more report to go before the november election which will come out right before election day. and the white house watches these numbers so carefully. they get nervous days in advance about them. they knew these numbers yesterday. so they had to be happy then even though they were having a terrible day out on the campaign trail because of the way that the president's performance in the debate wednesday night. >> nancy, i want to ask you something that jack welch, former ceo of general electric tweeted this morning. he is a romney supporter. unbeliev
and surprising numbers about jobs forcing both the president and mitt romney to re-write their pitch to voters. ge's former boss calls the jobs numbers unbelievable. wait until you hear the smackdown he gets from a one-time member of the obama white house. and mitt romney's complete aboutface. how he now calls his 47% remarks totally wrong. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin with president obama out there on the campaign trail making the most of today's unexpected and potentially, potentially game changing numbers about jobs. with only 32 days to go before the election, the labor department announced employers created 114,000 jobs last month. just as important the numbers from july and august were revised upward to show the economy added 86,000 more jobs than we originally thought. september's unemployment rate fell from 8.1% down to 7.8%. it hasn't been this low since president obama was inaugurated. and out there on the campaign trail today he's taking full credit for the change. let's bring in our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin. she's getting reac
a bird in the hand is worth three in the books. >> as you might expect, president obama and mitt romney saw today's job numbers much differently. >> today's news should give us some endirgement. it shouldn't be an excuse for the other sim to talk some political points. >> the truth is, if the same people were working on the force, why would the reality be over 40%. >> they have been out of work six months or more. economists say we need to hire $425 every month to make a dent. >>> another deadly officer involved shooting. only this time it happened in a usually quiet community in heyward. it all started this morning when police stopped a stolen car near briar gateway and vanned deer built street. what left next that a r left a neighborhood shot. >> i was inside of his. >> shoes and evidence markers. investigators pressuring and documenting the scene. it's the too familiar aftermath of another shooting. this one involving a heyward police officer that left the suspect dead. >> hi approached the vehicle. he ordered that occupant self times to show his hands. the suspect did not compl
: well as you might expect, president obama and mitt romney saw today's job numbers much differently. >> today's news should give us some encouragement. it shouldn't be an excuse for the other side to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. >> so it looks like unemployment is getting better, but the truth is if the same share of people were participating in the work force, the day that the president got elected while the unemployment rate would be around 11%. and that's the real reality of what's happening on out there. >> 40% of the unemployed have been out of work six months or more. that number did not drop last month. economists say we need to add 200,000 jobs or more every month to make a dent in the unemployment rate. linda yee, cbs5. >>> in one bay area county, why some cities are being forced to import other people's garbage. >>> a california man dies from a disease we almost never see here in america. how a sick bat triggered an international health scare. >>> a new tool to find the cheapest airline tickets. how strangers are competing against each othe
allegations of mitt romney support for the democratic bias in recent polls. he presented free debate numbers in battleground states as well as public opinion polling on a range of issues. >> please welcome andrew walter with tonight's of columbus. [applause] >> thank you very much. we have the code directors of the meredith institute for public opinion at marist college in poughkeepsie, new york. the institute was founded in 1978 and does research on elections and public policy issues. you probably know their work from the battleground folding they have been doing for nbc and wall street journal this election cycle and working with the knights of columbus since 2008 on a variety of moral and religious issue polling we have done over the years so we are pleased to have lee miringoff and barbara will be speaking about the election and the context of the moral and religious the issues that are under consideration. without further ado, lee miringoff. [applause] >> thank you very much conlan and thank you from the religion news writers association convention for inviting us. welcome to the audien
, the numbers are not working in the direction of romney and i'm surprised that they not shifting at all. they continue working the base, working the base to interview with mitt romney. mitt romney is saying we have -- ambulance will come and take to you emergency room hospital. romney an expert in health care policy. he reformed health care in the stays of massachusetts. he is not ignorant. he is talking to his base. so far i don't think it's working. >> i want to you make the argument -- . [ multiple speakers ] -- back to the girls with guns. is that an argument for the women's vote. >> i don't think it's a real issue for women so much. but you know, i'm a farm and ranch girl and a grew up in a family that did hunt and i had a gun when i was in my single-digits back in the day and was taught how to shoot and taught about how to treat a gun and how to respect and things like that. i think that's important. and i think it's an important place our culture we have these different activities that take place. so -- >> i was going to say, you have to kind of divvy up the goods. of course thos
to try to talk down the economy. just to try to score a few political points. >> mitt romney argued that the numbers disguised the fact that people have actually stopped looking for work. this morning, he campaigned in southwest virginia before going to florida where he criticized the president for failing to get specific on job growth. >> he's got a chance to explain his jobs program. did you hear what he had to say? i didn't either. [ laughter ] i heard more of the same. >> mitt romney will spend more of the next three days in florida. >> well, now we know the washington nationals finally got some answers tonight. they finally know where they're going and whole they'll face in the playoffs. carol? >> reporter: hey, doreen, the first post-season for washington, d.c. in 79 years will be in sant lewis. the cardinals had to win in atlanta tonight. taken to turner field. braves fans showing some love for chipper jones. top 6, cards up 3-2. holiday unloads this pitch. makes it a solo shot to left. cardinals win the first-ever kield card game 6-p. they break out the champagne. their cele
to election day. barack obama and mitt romney are tackling a number of issues in denver. a pa judge expected to rule about a new state law requiring every voter to present a photo id at the polls opponents say it will deprive some people of their right to vote. today find out if the latest search for jimmy hoffa's body turned up clues. they dug through concrete. soil samples are looked at to be sure they contain human remains. >>> maceys is ramping up hiring , the retailer says it plans to bring in 80,000 seasonal workers. they are needed to staff sales floors, store operations and call centers and shipping centers for on line orders. >>> today is live strong day. send a message of support through facebook or twitter. each message means $1 for on going cancer research. ikea is under fire for removing women from the saudi arabia version of the catalog. to look at the difference, the one on the right is the saudi catalog, the one on the left is what you normally see. this raised questions about commitment to gender equality. in saudi arabia, a woman must have a man's permission if they want to
romney says that those numbers are not good enough. tara mergener has more now from the white house. >> reporter: john keenan is repairing bikes these days. not in montana where he owns a farm with his wife but in springfield, virginia. >> i moved back in with my parents the same house i grew up in. >> reporter: keenan left behind breathtaking vistas and his cashmere sheep because jobs are more plentiful on the east coast. >> it's been is very poor economy for a long time. it's tough to get a job. the scenery is awesome. everyone wants to move there but you can't eat the scenery. >> reporter: the latest job numbers suggest more of the same for people like keenan. 114,000 jobs were added last month. less than in august or july. but the all important employment rate fell to 7 .8%. the lowest since president obama took office. officials at the white house say there is still more work to be done on the jobs front but insist the later report is proof -- latest report is proof the economy is headed in the right direction. >> we've made too much progress to return to the policies that led
is governor romney's numbers do not add up. i had to spend time last night trying to pin it down. the only way to pay for $5 trillion in the tax cuts and $2 trillion in the defense spending that the military says it does not need is by asking the middle-class to pay more. i refuse to do that. i refuse to ask middle-class families to give up their deductions for owning a home or raising their kids just to pay for another millionaire's tax cut, just to pay for more tax cuts that we cannot afford. i will never turn medicare into a voucher. governor romney doubled down on the proposal last night, and he is wrong. no american should have to spend their golden years at the mercy of insurance companies. they should retire with the dignity they have earned. we will perform and strengthen medicare for a long haul, but reducing the cost of health care, not by asking seniors to pay thousands of dollars more, and we will keep promise of social security by taking the responsible steps to strengthen it. we will have a chance to talk about what is going on overseas, because our prosperity at home is linked t
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the debates than mitt romney. that number very consistent with other surveys, as we have seen over the last couple of weeks. what about next week? we're the only people who asked about next week's showdown between the vice presidential candidates. look at this. who would have the upper hand, biden or ryan, paul ryan of wisconsin according to our poll. so something a little extra i just gave you there, not just tonight's debate, i'm looking ahead to next week. >> paul ryan will not be saying who am i and why am i here? he is plenty well known out there. >> i guarantee you, yes. >> let's talk about the issues. a lot of times the horse race takes over the headlines and the distractions as they're called by critics. but what are the voters saying when we call them and we ask them the pointed questions about the actual issues who is winning on the issues alone? >> on the economy, which is the most important issue in the minds of americans, basically divided on this. look at this. you mentioned there are six segments tonight, three on the economy, that's probably right. what is most important iss
americans are getting jobs. >> unemployment dropped from 8.1% to 7.8%, but met romney has his own take. >> the number of people in america, the participation is the same as when he got elected. the unemployment rate would be about 11%. >> still, the unemployment news, not talk about the wednesday debate and not the president's poor performance, entered the headlines. some republicans find that too convenient. the former ceo jack welch said the books had been cooked. >> i have no evidence, i just raised the question. >> while mitt romney's wife was working the phones, the vice presidential candidates were getting ready for their big showdown, hoping to make a difference on the big stage. >>> now the 11 insta-weather forecast with john collins. >> the front coming through these clouds, moving to the east. most of this was on the eastern shore. now the skies had cleared for the most part. this cold front, and it is doing what a cold front does, dropping the temperature. 79 high at the airport, right before noon, then the temperature starting falling. we're in the mid-60s now. the low toda
and they are taking some of the wind out of the sails of mitt romney presidential campaign. the numbers yesterday show businesses created 114,000 new jobs around the country last month. lower than previous months, but the unemployment rate dropped to 7.8%, the best it's been in four years. it changes the political conversation from the president's debate performance to the improving economy. more on that with mark matthews. >> good morning. >> in san francisco, one sign of an improving economy, shoppers lined up around the block for the opening of the clothing store. >> i feel like we have picked up in the economy. but i don't know. i don't know for the rest of the country. >> the labor department statistics show the rest of the country is also improving 114,000 new jobs added in september. the revised numbers for july and august show 86,000 more jobs than originally reported, taking away a favorite line of mitt romney's stump speech. >> we've had 43 straight months of unemployment above 8%. >> romney supporters are now questioning the new labor numbers. >> i wouldn't bet my mortgage on the numbers be
, first of all, how much does this employment number blunt mitt romney's debate momentum? and do you think the white house is going phew, relieved at this? >> if not popping champagne bottles. two-ways in which this number was so useful to the white house yesterday. it got the unemployment rate below 8% which has been kind of a line of demarkation. the romney folks have made a big deal about it being above 8% for so many months all through president obama's tenure. the other thing is the timing. i mean, all the reviews from the debate has been so negative for president obama. and this just automatically changed the subject. at 8:30 yesterday morning we stopped talk thing about the debates and started talking about improvement in the jobless numbers >> yes. david with respect to the conspiracy theorists out there, mitt romney is not latched onto all threat rick. but could all this talk, this talk, could it damage him in the long run? i mean, in some ways all it does is just highlight the fact we're talking below 8%. >> absolutely, alex. i think that the romney campaign didn't respond to tha
obama heads to california tomorrow expected to tout the new jobs numbers. mitt romney is in florida today holding a rally in a matter of hours in that battle ground state as he refines his message on the employment picture. >>> and some big fundraising numbers out today. president obama and the democrats raised $181 million in september. that's the highest monthly re-election total so far. >>> also today, the romney camp claims it has collected more than $12 million in online donations and seeing bigger crowds on the campaign trail since wednesday's debate. >>> meanwhile about those jobs numbers, it is a figure splashed across the front page of most of the papers that hit your doorstep or driveways today. 7.8% below the critical 8% level. that number falling .2% from last month to the lowest level of the president's time in office spurred a conspiracy theory started in large part by former g.e. ceo jack welch who questioned the integrity of the number in a tweet. he then went on msnbc's "hardball" and refused to back down. >> do you mean it's a coincidence, or do you mean you have e
number may be mitt romney's big opportunity though. let's discuss with our chief political analyst gloria borger. are these debates, gloria, always harder for incumbents? >> i think it is. you look at the expectation game. people understand that president obama is a great speaker, they've seen him do other debates in the past. and they kind of remember them and think he's the sitting president, he'll do a better job. so he's got expectations running against him. then the other thing for the challenger is remember, wolf, this is really the first time that mitt romney and barack obama will be at the same level. so just by showing up to a certain degree mitt romney gets elevated standing on the same stage with the president. and here's another thing about the president, he has to defend his record without seeming to be defensive about it. and that's, you know, that's not an easy thing to accomplish. so he's got a big job tonight. >> mitt romney's got a huge job as well. what do you expect he will try to do? >> well, i've been talking to some senior romney advisors this past week. one advisor
of those very devastating numbers for the president? >> i think that governor romney is certainly a skilled debater. and last night he was able to elevate his level of performance. but he did not change the fundamental dynamics of this race, nor did he change some of the policies that actually got us into the economic mess that we have. he embraced the president and agreed that, in fact, he does want to turn medicare into a voucher program, and he still skated and danced and tap danced around how it is that he's going to cut tax for millionaires and billionaires without that having an impact on the rest of the budget. and that's still a question that he has to answer. i thought the president's best moment in the debate was when he contrasted the two economic approaches. president obama is much more ke keeping with president clinton. it's a balanced approach. and mitt romney is still waving around the magic wand, that if you cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires, that grows jobs rather than deficits. and we know that's not true. so he did have an elevated level of debate. and fortunate
played the old death panel card. romney was an artful liar when it came to health care. >> number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. number two, young people are able to stay on their family plan. >> this is such a big lie. romney's own adviser had to shoot it down after the debate. eric burnstrom was pressed about mitt romney keeping pre-existing conditions as part of his plan. he said, we'd like to sew what states do what massachusetts did. in massachusetts we have a ban on pre-existing conditions. in other words, it's not in romney's plan and they're l leaving it up to the states. romney was rewarded for his skillful lying at a hero's welcome at a conservative political conference in colorado today. seen jnior obama adviser david axelrod admitted the president can't let romney's lies go unchecked next time around. >> he made a choice last night to answer the questions that were asked and to talk to the american people about what we need to do to move forward and not to get into serial fact-checking with governor romney, which can be an exhausting, never-ending,
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